Koji od Japanskih R motora je najbolji po vasem misljenju

[Purec92 19 Napisano Decembar 27, 2008]

Pise i na tarabi mnogo sta pa nije. 

Kad ga budes registrovao, mozes reci da ti na tehnickom upisu i 120kg ako hoces, takav je zakon nas i niko ti ne brani, tako da necu vise da trosim reci na raspravu oko toga sta je tacno...

OK. Ja sam pogresno procitao. Na netu pise da je kilaza GSX-R 750 ima kilazu od 165 kg (sto se poklapa sa tezinom u mojoj saobracajnoj) a pobrkao sam i pisao sam istu tezinu za GSX-R 1000 ali nema veze necemo bezveze da se svadjamo

[Cale 9 Napisano Decembar 27, 2008]

današnji motri u toj klasi su toliko dobri da je samo pitanje koji ti bolje legne i na koju stranu te srce vuče.

 

Potpisujem Ra$o!

Bas sam vrsljao nesto po netu. Pogledajte samo koliko su performanse blizu.Ovo su vremena na 1/4 milje.

 

2006 Kawasaki ZX10 R 9.76

2006 Yamaha R1 9.77

2006 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 9.77

2006 Honda CBR 1000 RR 9.89

 

 

Za Gixera 750 iz 85 imam ovaj podatak. Izvor je

 

http://www.suzukicycles.org

 

Dry Weight: 179 kg (394 lbs)

 

[GixxerK6 819 Napisano Decembar 28, 2008]

Nekada sam negde pročitao da Claimed horse power prodaje motor a da obrtni moment na trkama pobeđuje!

Ovo može da deluje kao istinito

Iz ovoga se može lako zaključiti da nije presudna ta peak snaga već kako motor dolazi do nje.

To je što se tiče snage npr a tada ako već ideš tako brzo mora da imaš i dobro izabranu geometriju od strane fabrike koja je proizvela motocikl.

I tu se svi oni razlikuju.

Svaki od ovih motocikala je specifičan što se tiče dimenzija, kilaže, visine sedišta, položaja sedenja itd a to je opet povezano sa vozačem jer nemaju svi iste dužine nogu, ruku.

Evo jednog dela teksta koji je na naki način uticao da sa R1 iste kategorije probam GSXR1000, radi se o modelima 1000ccm, 2006 god što ne znači da koliko sutra ne bih probao i vozio bilo šta, naprotiv

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Spin The Drum

When it comes to maximum power, the ZX-10R puts the rest of the bikes on the trailer. It churned the

dyno drum to the tune of 155.3 horsepower at 12,100 rpm, shortly before its 12,700-rpm redline (not quite

the 13K Kawi claims).

But before we deem the King Kong Kaw as the best motor, consider the GSX-R's 153.2-hp pull. Despite

its higher rev limit of 13,100 rpm (not the 13.5K Suzi claims), its peak power arrives earlier than the ZX's

at 11,100 rpm. It also comes on sooner and more progressively, surging past the 125-hp mark at 8600

rpm while the ZX takes an additional 500 revs to eclipse that mark. So, while the ZX has a 3700-rpm

spread of 125-plus horsepower, the Gixxer does the same feat over 4500 rpm. The Suzuki also has a

more linear pull, without the Ninja's slight flat spots at 6000 and 8500 rpm.

Honda's CBR engine has been derided in the past for its ultra-friendly powerband, and it still retains its

predictable linear pull through its new 12,400-rpm rev limit (200 revs higher than claimed, and way up

from the 11,600 limit of last year's model). It logged its peak of 149.4 hp at 11,300 rpm, a 4-pony bump.

Using the aforementioned 125-plus-horsepower range, the CBR manages to be above that level for 3800

rpm. The double-R was especially impressive by mostly out-muscling the steamy ZX from above 6000

revs until 11K.

Yamaha's R1 struggles in this category with the most jagged dyno trace, clearly without the torquey and

linear pull of the others. Blame the Yammie's most oversquare engine configuration. In '04 Yamaha gave

the R1 a 3mm bore increase to produce a higher-revving powerplant, making its bore and stroke 77.0mm

and 53.6mm, respectively. Compare that with the GSX-R1K's 73.4 x 59.0mm, the least oversquare of the

bunch.

The result is an engine that is simply out-motored by its competition, especially at the low end and midrange

points of the powerband. Making matters worse is a significant flat spot from 6500-7000 rpm, which

is a range that is ridden through constantly on the street. It then comes on like gangbusters from 7200-

8000 rpm before again softening up until 9500 rpm when it hurtles past the 125-hp threshold. This

motor's saving grace - especially on the racetrack - is its 4100-rpm spread of 125-plus horsepower before

it hits the highest-in-class redline of 13,750 rpm (the same limit Yamaha claims). It peaks with 148.5

ponies at 12,400 rpm, 1000 revs higher than the CBR's similar max number. Just as important a flaw is

the R1's weak torque. While the others crest above 75 lb-ft between 8300 and 8700 rpm, the Yamaha's

peak of just 71.4 lb-ft arrives way up at 10,000 rpm.

Strip 'Em!

Although these bikes were designed to go around corners, we all know there are more straight roads

than curvy ones. So which bike has the best acceleration? Our high-tech VBOX data acquisition unit

provides the answers. Each bike received just four runs to get a quick time, except for the R1 whose

clutch began to slip after just three. Times are corrected for altitude and temperature.

Best out of the hole is the Gixxer. Its combination of strong midrange power, a clutch with good feel, and

the lowest seat height makes this the dragracing champ. Its best 60-foot time translated into the quickest

to 60 mph, going through the virtual traps with a 10.09 at 143.8 mph. Testimony to the Suzuki's

excellence at this task is that my last three runs on it were all within just 0.05 second of each other! The

three nearly identical runs shows that I got somewhere near "the most" of it.

The same can't be said for the ZX-10R. My best run on the ZX wasn't ideal - I'd left something on the

table, being unable to hold the throttle wide open in low gear because its fierce power wanted to loft ETkilling

wheelies. It lags slightly behind the Gixxer during the first part of the run, and then uses its highest

horsepower to claw back the gap until tripping the lights at 10.09 seconds - same as the Suzuki. The

[GhostMile 4614 Napisano Decembar 28, 2008]

GSX - brutalan

ZX - brutalaniji

R1 - najbrutalniji

 

CBR - najmanje brutalan, najduze traje, svaciji prijatelj

 

CBR je najnjezniji od velike 4-ke i najbolji za ulicu.

Najlaksi za voziti i najudobninji. Skoro da ne zasluzuje ono R u imenu, a ima ih cak 2.  ;D

I pored toga je izvlacenje maximuma (na ulici) vrlo zahtijevan zadatak.

 

A sto se glasanja tice, pitanje je nepotpuno.

Koji od ovih Japanaca je po vasem misljenju najbolji (godiste nebitno ) ....za koju namjenu?

 

poz

[Purec92 19 Napisano Decembar 28, 2008]

GSX - brutalan

ZX - brutalaniji

R1 - najbrutalniji

 

CBR - najmanje brutalan, najduze traje, svaciji prijatelj

 

CBR je najnjezniji od velike 4-ke i najbolji za ulicu.

Najlaksi za voziti i najudobninji. Skoro da ne zasluzuje ono R u imenu, a ima ih cak 2.  ;D

I pored toga je izvlacenje maximuma (na ulici) vrlo zahtijevan zadatak.

 

A sto se glasanja tice, pitanje je nepotpuno.

Koji od ovih Japanaca je po vasem misljenju najbolji (godiste nebitno ) ....za koju namjenu?

 

poz

 

Procitaj ime teme. Koji od Japanskih R motora je najbolji po vasem misljenju...

[PROFILER 76 Napisano Decembar 28, 2008]

Mozda sam objektivan ali Jamaha definitivno pa i Dottore je vozi.I sto nije Suzuki osvojio prvo mesto nego Jamaha.

 

Ja ne videh nigde M1 kao ponudjen odgovor prema tome 

[GhostMile 4614 Napisano Decembar 28, 2008]

GSX - brutalan

ZX - brutalaniji

R1 - najbrutalniji

 

CBR - najmanje brutalan, najduze traje, svaciji prijatelj

 

CBR je najnjezniji od velike 4-ke i najbolji za ulicu.

Najlaksi za voziti i najudobninji. Skoro da ne zasluzuje ono R u imenu, a ima ih cak 2.  ;D

I pored toga je izvlacenje maximuma (na ulici) vrlo zahtijevan zadatak.

 

A sto se glasanja tice, pitanje je nepotpuno.

Koji od ovih Japanaca je po vasem misljenju najbolji (godiste nebitno ) ....za koju namjenu?

 

poz

 

Procitaj ime teme. Koji od Japanskih R motora je najbolji po vasem misljenju...

U jbte koliko R. Dobro, mozda sam se lose izrazio, ali R je u principu za R, jel, tj. za stazu. E sad sto ga vecina vozi po cesti, to je druga prica.

 

Dakle, za ulicu Honda, a za stazu konkurencija.

 

eto.

[Purec92 19 Napisano Decembar 28, 2008]

Hehehe ok sta fali onom R bas je lepo :D

[Angell 15 Napisano Decembar 29, 2008]

Kratko: R1 ili ni jedan!!  ;D

[stevo 58 Napisano Decembar 29, 2008]

odgovor je vrlo jednostavan HONDA VTR 1000 SP 01

[Aca035 36 Napisano Decembar 30, 2008]

Moj je zx1cbgsxR ninka 9;-)

Neko ima ovo neko ono.A sve se svodi na super motore