Da, to je sigurno! Kada si to već pomenuo, Rossi je prelaskom iz Yamahe u Ducati već dokazao da mu mnogo više znači koliko će novca imati na računu nego što mu znači da odbrani svoj status u timu. Međutim, ako mu i ova sezona bude loša, a Honda i Yamaha budu na sličnom nivou kao prošle sezone, što je vrlo verovatno, pretpostavljam da će potpisati za Gresini i voziti za znatno manje novca samo da bi se dokopao konkurentne mašine. Zašto mislim Gresini (naravno pod uslovom da odluči da ne potpiše produženje sa Ducatiem)? Lin Jarvis mu je već zatvorio vrata u fabričkom Yamaha timu, a verujem da se to odnosi i na Tech3. Sem toga, Tech3 tim ima odličnu mladu postavu, zašto bi Poncharal bilo šta menjao? U Repsol Hondi nema mesta, i kao jedina realna opcija mu preostaje Gresini. Njegov bivši menadžer Carlo Pernat je ovo javno predlagao još prošle godine kada je Rossi bio katastrofalan.

Nema problema. Dodao sam.

Razlog za rano otvaranje ove teme je izjava Valentina Rossia koji je pre neki dan tokom Wrooom-a 2012 rekao za zvanični MotoGP sajt: "U najmanju ruku, želim još ugovor, što znači još dve sezone nakon ove", rekao je motogp.com. "Ove godine će prelazni period biti posebno zanimljiv jer svim vozačima ističe ugovor! Nadam se da ću ostati u Ducatiu, jer moram da pobedim sa njima i ostvarim neke dobre rezultate." Dakle, Valentino nikome nije zatvorio vrata. Šta vi mislite?

FIM je objavio privremene liste učesnika za MotoGP, Moto2 i Moto3 šampionate. Privremena lista učesnika za MotoGP 1 CASEY STONER AUS - HONDA TEAM, HONDA 4 ANDREA DOVIZIOSO ITA - YAMAHA TECH 3, YAMAHA 5 COLIN EDWARDS USA - FORWARD RACING, SUTER* 6 STEFAN BRADL GER - LCR HONDA MotoGP, HONDA 8 HECTOR BARBERA SPA - PRAMAC RACING TEAM, DUCATI 9 DANILO PETRUCCI ITA - IODA RACING PROJECT, IODA* 11 BEN SPIES USA - YAMAHA FACTORY RACING, YAMAHA 13 ANTHONY WEST AUS - SPEED MASTER, ART* 14 RANDY DE PUNIET FRA - ASPAR TEAM MotoGP, ART* 17 KAREL ABRAHAM CZE - CARDION AB MOTORACING, DUCATI 19 ALVARO BAUTISTA SPA - HONDA GRESINI, HONDA 20 ALEIX ESPARGARO SPA - ASPAR TEAM MotoGP, ART* 22 IVAN SILVA SPA - BQR, BQR-FTR* 26 DANI PEDROSA SPA - HONDA TEAM, HONDA 35 CAL CRUTCHLOW GBR - YAMAHA TECH 3, YAMAHA 46 VALENTINO ROSSI ITA - DUCATI TEAM, DUCATI 51 MICHELE PIRRO ITA - HONDA GRESINI, FTR* 68 YONNY HERNANDEZ COL - BQR, BQR-FTR* 69 NICKY HAYDEN USA - DUCATI TEAM, DUCATI 77 JAMES ELLISON GBR - PAUL BIRD RACING, ART* 99 JORGE LORENZO SPA - YAMAHA FACTORY RACING, YAMAHA *CRT Privremena lista učesnika za Moto2 3 SIMONE CORSI ITA - IODA RACING PROJECT, IODA 4 RANDY KRUMMENACHER SWI - GP TEAM SWITZERLAND, SUTER 5 JOHANN ZARCO FRA - JIR Moto2, MOTOBI 7 ALEXANDER LUNDH SWE - MZ RACING TEAM MZ-RE, HONDA 8 GINO REA GBR - GRESINI RACING Moto2, MORIWAKI 9 KENNY NOYES USA - ARGUIÑANO RACING TEAM, TBA 12 THOMAS LUTHI SWI - INTERWETTEN-PADDOCK Moto2, SUTER 14 RATTHAPARK WILAIROT THA - GRESINI RACING Moto2, MORIWAKI 15 ALEX DE ANGELIS ITA - FORWARD RACING, SUTER 18 NICOLAS TEROL SPA - ASPAR TEAM Moto2, SUTER 19 XAVIER SIMEON BEL - TECH 3 RACING, TECH 3 24 TONI ELIAS SPA - ASPAR TEAM Moto2, SUTER 29 ANDREA IANNONE ITA - SPEED MASTER, FTR 30 TAKAAKI NAKAGAMI JAP - ITALTRANS RACING TEAM, KALEX 36 MIKA KALLIO FIN - MARC VDS RACING TEAM, KALEX 38 BRADLEY SMITH GBR - TECH 3 RACING, TECH 3 40 POL ESPARGARO SPA - PONS RACING PONS, KALEX 44 ROBERTO ROLFO ITA - TECHNOMAG-CIP, SUTER 45 SCOTT REDDING GBR - MARC VDS RACING TEAM, KALEX 47 ANGEL RODRIGUEZ SPA - SAG TEAM, FTR 49 AXEL PONS SPA - PONS RACING PONS, KALEX 57 ERIC GRANADO BRA - JIR Moto2, MOTOBI 60 JULIAN SIMON SPA - BQR, FTR 63 MIKE DI MEGLIO FRA - SPEED UP, FTR 71 CLAUDIO CORTI ITA - ITALTRANS RACING TEAM, KALEX 72 YUKI TAKAHASHI JAP - FORWARD RACING, SUTER 76 MAX NEUKIRCHNER GER - KIEFER RACING, KALEX 77 DOMINIQUE AEGERTER SWI - TECHNOMAG-CIP, SUTER 80 ESTEVE RABAT SPA - PONS RACING PONS, KALEX 82 ELENA ROSELL SPA - QMMF RACING TEAM, MORIWAKI 88 RICKY CARDUS SPA - QMMF RACING TEAM, MORIWAKI 93 MARC MARQUEZ SPA - MONLAU COMPETICION, SUTER TO BE ANNOUNCED - SAG TEAM, FTR Privremena lista učesnika za Moto3 3 LUIGI MORCIANO ITA - IODA RACING PROJECT, IODA 5 ROMANO FENATI ITA - TEAM ITALIA FMI, IODA 7 EFREN VAZQUEZ SPA - TEAM LAGLISSE, HONDA 8 JACK MILLER AUS - TECHNO RACING, HONDA 9 TONI FINSTERBUSCH GER - RACING TEAM GERMANY, HONDA 10 ALEXIS MASBOU FRA - TECHNO RACING, HONDA 11 SANDRO CORTESE GER - RED BULL KTM AJO, KTM 14 BRAD BINDER RSA - RW RACING GP KALEX, KTM 19 ALESSANDRO TONUCCI ITA - TEAM ITALIA FMI, IODA 23 ALBERTO MONCAYO SPA - ASPAR TEAM, KALEX KTM 25 MAVERICK VIÑALES SPA – BQR, FTR HONDA 26 ADRIAN MARTIN SPA - TEAM LAGLISSE, HONDA 27 NICCOLO ANTONELLI ITA - GRESINI RACING, HONDA 30 GIULIAN PEDONE SWI - PHONICA RACING, ORAL 31 NIKLAS AJO FIN - TT MOTION EVENTS RACING, KTM 32 ISAAC VIÑALES SPA - ONGETTA-CENTRO SETA, HONDA 39 LUIS SALOM SPA - RW RACING GP KALEX, KTM 42 ALEX RINS SPA - MONLAU COMPETICION, HONDA 44 MIGUEL OLIVEIRA POR - MONLAU COMPETICION, HONDA 51 KENTA FUJII JAP - TECHNOMAG-CIP, HONDA 52 DANNY KENT GBR - RED BULL KTM AJO, KTM 53 JASPER IWEMA HOL - MOTO FGR, FGR HONDA 55 HECTOR FAUBEL SPA - ASPAR TEAM, KALEX KTM 61 ARTHUR SISSIS AUS - RED BULL KTM AJO, KTM 63 ZULFAHMI KHAIRUDDIN MAL - AIRASIA-SIC-AJO, KTM 77 MARCEL SCHROTTER GER - MAHINDRA RACING, MAHINDRA 84 JAKUB KORNFEIL CZE - REDOX-ONGETTA-CENTRO SETA, HONDA 89 ALAN TECHER FRA - TECHNOMAG-CIP, HONDA 94 JONAS FOLGER GER - MZ RACING TEAM, MZ 95 MIROSLAV POPOV CZE - PHONICA RACING, ORAL 96 LOUIS ROSSI FRA - RACING TEAM GERY, HONDA 99 DANNY WEBB GBR - MAHINDRA RACING, MAHINDRA

Lin Jarvis ne želi Rossia nazad Jarvis commenting on silly season rumors of having Rossi back as a team mate with Lorenzo said, “It’s an interesting question, but right now I have no idea what projects Valentino has for the future, if he’ll continue motorcycle racing or turn to car racing like he talked about when he was with us. In any case, Valentino and Jorge together again Yamaha is not an option we are considering for the future. The Yamaha manager was suprised to see the difficulties that Rossi suffered with Ducati in 2011 and hopes to see the Italian’s fortunes turned around this season, “Seeing Valentino Rossi in difficulty is not good for anyone: the ideal situation would be to see three manufacturers and three riders fighting for the victory every weekend. I was surprised by the problems encountered by Valentino last year, leaving Yamaha to Ducati was a bigger jump than when he switched from Honda to Yamaha. In 2004, Valentino was 8 years younger and undoubtedly the best rider of the moment. Now the level is higher, there is much more competition, Honda and Yamaha have taken a big step forward, he’s older and these are the factors that are from my view point, that made the challenge more difficult for Valentino with Ducati than of his 2004 with Yamaha. “

SuperbikePlanet sajt nam nudi odlične i retke slike Spiesove predivne Yamaha M1 mašine. http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/archive/2011m1laguna/1/index.htm http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/archive/2011m1laguna/2/index.htm

I ja sam stekao takav utisak.

To crank, pogledaj ovaj link. MCN prenosi šta je Carmelo Ezpeleta rekao na Ducatievom predstavljanju. Evo bitnog dela o spec. ECU: Kao što se vidi, Carmelo sada odvaja spec. ECU od limitatora obrtaja, tj. ne kaže da oba predloga idu u paketu, nego imamo ovo i ovo, što je veoma bitno. Pored tih mera koje bi trebalo da izjednače mašine, sada se pominju i neke nove kao što su dodavanje kila i zamrzavanje razvoja agregata (kada se jednom agregat pokaže konkurentnim ne sme se menjati tri godine). Jasno se vidi da Carmelo koristi odrđene predloge (spec. ECU, limitator) da bi izborio što bolju poziciju u pregovorima sa MSMA, ali to ne znači da će ti predlozi biti prihvaćeni. On ih naravno može uvesti, ima tu moć, ali po koju cenu? Realnost je da će proizvođači prihvatiti, kada su u pitanju mere kojima je cilj zaustavljanje razvoja, limitator obrtaja i zamrzavanje agregata, ili u cilju smanjenja performansi, dodavanje kila, ali spec. ECU - nikako.

Proizvođačima se ne siđa spec. ECU, dok na limitator obrtaja pristaju. Mislim da se ni Carmelo neće puno igrati i gledati da po svaku cenu uvede spec. ECU. To bi moglo biti kontraproduktivno, i to u svakom smislu. Honda je već nagovestila da bi mogla da napusti šampionat ako se to desi, a nema nikakve sumnje da će je Yamaha pratiti. Videćemo šta će se na kraju desiti. Na pojedinim sajtovima (Motomatters) se uporno pogrešno tumači Ezpeletin predlog (da se uvede spec. ECU i limitator obrtaja) i piše se kao da je to gotova stvar. David Emmet bi za promenu mogao da zauzme drugačiji stav, i za promenu iznese svoje mišljenje, a ne da se uporno trudi da opravda Ezpeletine namere i odluke. Znam da je jedini novinar sa permanentnom propusnicom od Dorne, ali bi ipak mogao da malo smanji doživljaj.

CRT? Možda, ali mi to nekako deluje baš malo verovatno. Mislim da će on dosta vagati u novoj sezoni, i ako mu još ona bude prosečna, a sve ukazuje da hoće, mislim da će gledati da na svaki način ponovo sedne na neku japansku mašinu. Problem je što je svojim brbljivim jezikom i primadona zahtevima zatvorio vrata svuda, i ne verujem da će ga hteti u bilo kojem fabričkom timu. Vremena su se dosta promenila, on je ostario, a stigli su neki novi klinci. Dakle, kao realna opcija, ukoliko se naravno odluči na ovaj potez, mu ostaju sateliti. Tech3 ima Doviziosa i Crutchlowa, i ugovor sa Yamahom za prototip do 2013, i tu nikako ne vidim mesto za njega. Gresini bi sa druge strane bio pravi potez, prvenstveno zbog sponzora i strukture tima. On bi dobio konkurentnu fabričku mašinu, i napravila bi se priča da se Rossi odlučio za Gresini zbog Simoncellia, da zbog njega želi da osvoji titulu, i da se na pravi način oprosti od GP-a itd.

Da, da, sigurno! Možda ju je čak i osnovao! Pa to je Rossi čoveče Vidiš, zanimljivo i ispravno razmišljanje! Kako to meni nije palo na pamet Ma idi bre čoveče, lupaš kao...

obratite pažnju na ovoj pasus koji sam kopirao sa GPone sajta: Kako će to snažniji agregat pomoći težim vozačima poput Rossia i Haydena? Mislim da će teži vozači baš ove sezone biti u hendikepu, i to više nego ikada do sada! Povećava se kubikaža, a količina goriva ostaje ista. Ko ne uskladi potrošnju i elektroniku kako treba biće u gadnom problemu. Mixini miljenici Pedrosa i Puig sigurno trljaju ruke i vide 2012 kao svoju veliku šansu Proizvođači su se sami zakoapali sa pravilom od 21l, i mislim da će biti kukanja kod Ezpelete da se količina goriva poveća, pa makar i na 22l, kao što je bilo tokom ere od 990cc.

Da, da, sigurno! Možda ju je čak i osnovao! Pa to je Rossi čoveče

Što se tiče titule, pogledaj dole koliko sezona, sve sam ti lepo izvukao. Ne računajući 2011, poslednju titulu za Hondu je uzeo Nicky Hayden 2006, a čak ni prelazak Rossia u Yamahu nije sprečio Hondu da još uzme dve titule konstruktoraa u eri 990cc mašina, dakle sezone 2004 i 2006. Što se tiče podijuma i pobeda, Honda je od davne 1982 pa sve do sada u svakoj sezoni ostvarila barem jednu pobedu (u stvari minim dve) - ne znam da li uopšte ima potrebe da pišem da ne postoji drugi proizvođač kome je ovo pošlo za rukom. Ako te zanimaju pobede po sezonama, pogledaj ovaj link. Ti, čini mi se, misliš da je Repsol Honda proizvođač! Verovao ili ne - nije. Repsol Honda je fabrički tim! Kada ovaj Hondin tim nije pobeđivao, pobeđivao je neki drugi, tako da se to i dalje računa kao Hondina pobeda. Ovo su titule konstruktora od 1980 pa na dalje. Ne znam da li si znao, ali postoje titule za vozače, proizvođače i timove. Proizvođačima su naravno mnogo bitnije titule konstruktora.

Ostaje nam samo da se nadamo da neće biti problema.

Pobednici i gubitnici MotoSporta u 2011 Winner: Casey Stoner/HRC This one should be obvious -- Casey Stoner established himself as the elite power in MotoGP as soon as he climbed aboard a works Honda this season. His career numbers are already staggering and he's only getting started. Meanwhile, HRC did their part by developing the unstoppable '11 RC212V to finally claim a 800cc championship. Loser: Ducati/Valentino Rossi Stoner's rise balanced by Ducati's fall provided solid evidence as to who was the true driving force behind their former collaboration. Even in their worst nightmare, Ducati and Marlboro suits couldn't have imagined '11 going so wrong after their signing of the one and only Valentino Rossi. While the vast majority of the blame will be directed at Ducati, Rossi's reputation as a superhuman racer who can overcome any odds has been tarnished as well.

MotoGP: Najboljih 10 vozača 2011 1. Casey Stoner Like it or not, Casey Stoner is an all-time great. Just 26 years old, Stoner now has two MotoGP crowns claimed in dominant fashion and ranks fifth in career MotoGP wins, ahead of all the American legends. As mentioned above, he's actually gotten the better of Valentino Rossi during their shared time in the category and by a considerable margin, and no one expects him to slow down anytime soon. And as stellar as his 10 win, 12 pole, 16 podium '11 title campaign was, just how amazing do his Ducati years seem in hindsight? Rossi's humbling further cements the notion that only Aussie Stoner has what it takes to tame that beast -- a bike that has ruined many promising (and glittering) careers but one that Stoner somehow found a way on which to shine. Caustic, shy, irritable, whatever… the guy is a damn fine motorbike racer -- one of the best we've ever seen.

Da li si pročitao i ovo? They say you use less electronics than anyone else. It’s true, I don’t like much electronics, maybe this is why my Honda moves more than the others. In certain corners I can adapt more easily. I feel more comfortable when I can feel directly the connection with the rear tire and we’re still working on engine braking.

Casey Stoner o svojoj budućnosti Having a child on the way will change your attitude towards racing and if you’ll be racing until you’re 35 or 40? Even if you become a father it doesn’t influence the decision to continue racing. I don’t intend to race till I’m 35 or 40. I don’t consider this life, the races and the paddock as part of my family. It’s very difficult to continue staying here. It’s a hard job with all the pressure you have to stand and with the criticism that oftens fall on you. In my life there are more important things, and when I achieve what I want to achieve in this sport and for me to move on. What do you want to achieve? This is for me to know … I have my achievements, I’m not like other people who look at records and statistics and who continue to race looking for more records. When the moment comes I won’t have problems saying good-bye and leave room for younger riders. Also if you keep riding you need motivations and you don’t have the same energy you had several years before, I started my career very early and maybe this is why I’ll finish a little earlier.

Ljudi, nemojmo žuriti. Što se tiče limitatora obrtaja i standardne elektronske kontrolne jedinice, to je za sada samo ideja. Koliko sam upućen, proizvođači odnosno MSMA ima vremana do maja sledeće godine da prihvati ili odbaci ovu ideju. Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna) i Vito Ippolito (FIM) koji čine tzv. Stalni biro mogu da preinače odluku proizvođača, i da ipak uvedu ova ograničenja, ali je pitanje da li će se to stvarno desiti. Carmelo i Ippolito su već nekoliko puta rekli da proizvođači shvataju trenutnu situaciju, i da žele da se određene stvari promene. Ne vidim kako bi bilo koji proizvođač ostao u takmičenju sa pravilima koje Ezpeleta namerava da uvede za 2013. Zamislite proizvođači napuste šampionat, što i nije tako teško zamisliti, dešavalo se i ranije, i npr. povećaju svoju aktivnost u WSBK. Ne vidim kako bi tu MotoGP ili Dorna bili na dobitku. Najbolji vozači će uvek biti uz proizvođače, to je jednostavno tako. MotoGP bez proizvođača nikada neće biti na ovom nivou. Mislim da će se samo limitator obrtaja uvesti, jer je to jedino realno rešenje. Lin Jarvis je rakao za MCN (a mislim da se sa njim slažu i ostali šefovi): “It is quite a critical moment and we all share the awareness of the need to make important changes to bring costs under control. "We also want to see the show improved, so there are several problems that we need to address and the most critical is the quantity of the bikes on the grid. "We have now arrived in the biggest economic recession since the 1930s, so I think the status has changed in the last few years and we all have to be open minded and think of what intelligent changes we can make, not just as a knee jerk reaction but as an important and considered reaction to create a better future. "A fine balance though has to be maintained because if you take away the need or freedom for technical evolution, then that is one of the very important reasons for the manufacturers to be here. "MotoGP is used to train engineers and push engineers to bring new ideas that we can later use in our regular business. If you take away that opportunity to learn and develop then one of the important reasons why we are here disappears and that’s also dangerous to do that. "If you have a rev limit you have the freedom to be creative under that limit but if you have a controlled ECU you take away the majority of your freedom and creativity. "Electronics are dominant now in modern vehicle development and I think we need to maintain that. "That’s why it is not an easy solution because we have to maintain the space for creativity but put a cap on the costs.”

Valentino Rossi i Dainese - video preveden na engleski.

Možda je i to razlog, treba proveriti. U gotovo svim vestima se kao glavni ralog za ovo pravilo navodi briga da se CRT-ovi kvalifikuju.

Mala digresija. Čuveni Michael Scott kaže da je Rossi 2010 pao u Italiji zbog velikog pritska koji mu je nametnuo Lorenzo. Taj pritisak je bio uočljiv na prvi pogled. Ko je gledao intervjue koji su prethodili tim rundama ili možda film "Fastest" tačno zna na šta mislim, i mogao je da vidi koliko je Rossi bio nervozan. Valentino se kasnije pred kraj sezone vratio pobedom u Maleziji, kada ga je čuveno rame bolelo, međutim, ostaje da se vidi da li je taj pad koji je doživeo na stazi Mugello 2010 ostavio određene posledice u smislu samopuzdanja, i da li će silni padovi, koje je doživeo ove sezone, uticati na dalji tok njegove karijere. Niko nije nesalomiv, pritsak stiže sve, i ne postoje imuni na njega. Valentino je najbolji primer za to.

Da, priznaće im se vreme koje je u 107% od najboljeg vremena koje je postignto na zagrevanju (warm up).

Ma idi, ne bi mogao da živiš od njih! I ja sam razmišljao da pročitam, ali nikako da nađem vremena.